Legislature(2001 - 2002)

04/28/2001 09:10 AM House FIN

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HOUSE BILL NO. 239                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     An Act establishing a pilot program for a regional                                                                         
     learning center.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
LARRY   LABOLLE,   STAFF,  REPRESENTATIVE   RICHARD   FOSTER,                                                                   
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explained that  the 21   Legislature through the  Legislative                                                                   
Budget and Audit Committee (LBA)  hearings, found indications                                                                   
of  broad support  for regional  learning  centers.   Several                                                                   
communities  have  expressed interest  in  creating  regional                                                                   
boarding programs  focused on the special interests  of their                                                                   
regions.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
He noted that the Bering Strait  School District and the Nome                                                                   
City School District  have been exploring the  feasibility of                                                                   
a cooperative  program that would  utilize the  existing Nome                                                                   
Beltz School complex to develop  and operate a pilot regional                                                                   
learning program.   Both these  districts have  taken actions                                                                   
to  support the  creation  of  a pilot  program  and to  seek                                                                   
federal  funding  to  help cover  program  planning  and  the                                                                   
initial operation costs.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. LaBolle  pointed out  that a  conceptual overview  of the                                                                   
program was contained  in the March 20, 2001  letter from Dr.                                                                   
John  Davis,  Superintendent  of  the  Bering  Strait  School                                                                   
District.  [Copy  on File].  That letter helps  to define and                                                                   
support the concept proposed in the legislation.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Lancaster asked  if  the Department's  report                                                                   
would be available  to the Legislature.  Mr.  LaBolle replied                                                                   
that there  would be a report  available.  He added  that the                                                                   
program  was  accompanied by  a  sunset  clause in  order  to                                                                   
review  the  concept.    He  noted  that  the  districts  had                                                                   
consented  to  provide  a  third   party  evaluation  to  the                                                                   
Department and to the Legislature.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Davies asked if  the proposal would be similar                                                                   
to  the  boarding  school  concept as  Mt.  Edgecumbe.    Mr.                                                                   
LaBolle explained  that in the proposed program,  the student                                                                   
would  not be  leaving their  home village  for any  extended                                                                   
length of  time.  They would  be learning independent  living                                                                   
skills during  short periods of  time away from  their homes.                                                                   
These skills would help the student  with the transition from                                                                   
village life to larger community living.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Davies  inquired the  time  frame, which  the                                                                   
student would be living in the  program.  Mr. LaBolle replied                                                                   
that the initial  program would look something  like what the                                                                   
Bering Strait School district  has been running but expanded.                                                                   
The legislation would  expand that program and  bring it into                                                                   
Nome, where there is a larger population.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative J. Davies spoke in support of the program.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Foster   MOVED  to  report  HB   239  out  of                                                                   
Committee   with    individual   recommendations    and   the                                                                   
accompanying fiscal  note.  There being NO  OBJECTION, it was                                                                   
so ordered.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
HB  239  was reported  out  of  Committee  with a  "do  pass"                                                                   
recommendation  and  with  a fiscal  note  by  Department  of                                                                   
Education & Early Development #1 dated 4/25/01.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
#HB198                                                                                                                        
HOUSE BILL NO. 198                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     An Act relating to a post-retirement  pension adjustment                                                                   
     and  cost-of-living  allowance   for  persons  receiving                                                                   
     benefits  under the Elected  Public Officers  Retirement                                                                   
     System;   and  increasing   the   compensation  of   the                                                                   
     governor.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BILL  HUDSON explained that the  proposed bill                                                                   
had resulted  from  an effort  to contain costs  on the  most                                                                   
extreme   cases   requiring   inequity   correction   between                                                                   
retirement  benefit  calculations   for  the  Elected  Public                                                                   
Officials  Retirement System  (EPORS)  and Public  Employees'                                                                   
Retirement System  (PERS) members.   A statistical  review of                                                                   
EPORS  retirees, or  their surviving  spouses, revealed  that                                                                   
many members have  or will be receiving a  benefit adjustment                                                                   
but  rather  from  changes  in  the  salaries  or  additional                                                                   
allowances in the position from which they retired.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
The current language  concentrates on narrowing  the focus to                                                                   
members who have not had any cost  of living or other benefit                                                                   
adjustments  to  their  EPORS retirement  benefits,  as  have                                                                   
their peers who retired under the PERS retirement system.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hudson stated  that  HB 198  is  a fair  bill                                                                   
designed to  equalize future benefits  only of the  few EPORS                                                                   
retirees and their  surviving spouses who have  not otherwise                                                                   
seen any change  in retirement received for  their service to                                                                   
the State of Alaska.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Bunde asked  how many  people  would be  involved                                                                   
with  passage  of the  legislation.    Representative  Hudson                                                                   
replied five  or less.   He reiterated  that the bill  was an                                                                   
issue of "fairness".                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Bunde MOVED  to  ADOPT Amendment  #1.   [Copy  on                                                                   
File].  Representative Croft OBJECTED for an explanation.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Bunde  explained that  the Division of  Retirement                                                                   
and  Benefits  had proposed  the  amendment.   The  amendment                                                                   
would limit the bill to the five people mentioned.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
In  response  to  Representative  J.  Davies,  Representative                                                                   
Hudson  stated  that  there  are  only a  few  who  have  not                                                                   
received  an  increase  in  the last  years.    The  language                                                                   
provided in Amendment #1 is necessary  to isolate those five.                                                                   
There are approximately  twenty-two EPORS retirees  that have                                                                   
continued  their employment  with  the State.   Those  people                                                                   
have  been receiving  their annual  cost-of-living  increases                                                                   
under  the  programs.    The other  five  have  not  received                                                                   
anything for  fifteen years and  they would be  covered under                                                                   
this bill.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Mulder interjected  that the  legislation would  be                                                                   
restricted.  Representative Davies  commented that he did not                                                                   
want   it  to   be  restrictive   to   only  the   favorites.                                                                   
Representative Hudson  replied that some are  still under the                                                                   
EPORS system,  which has  been responsible  for those  costs.                                                                   
Initially, there were 35 and now there are five.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
GUY  BELL, DIRECTOR,  DIVISION  OF RETIREMENT  AND  BENEFITS,                                                                   
DEPARTMENT  OF ADMINISTRATION,  explained that  the bill  was                                                                   
designed  to cover  those people  that have  not received  an                                                                   
increase for fifteen years.  Effectively,  there are only two                                                                   
people  in that  category.   The  retirement  and benefit  is                                                                   
based on  the salary of the  position that person  last held.                                                                   
Those  benefits have  been fixed.   All  other EPORS  members                                                                   
have received  some increase.   The increase is based  on the                                                                   
salary  and  other  compensation  of the  position  that  the                                                                   
person left.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Croft commented  that it rest on the fact that                                                                   
the  Governor's salary  had not  been  increased since  1983.                                                                   
The legislation  would provide  a retirement benefit  roughly                                                                   
equal to what Governor Hammond  would have received if he had                                                                   
gone on to another system or his salary was raised.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bell  replied that  the legislation  would provide  a 75%                                                                   
change in the  Consumer Price Index (CPI) since  that benefit                                                                   
was  last changed  in 1983.    The original  bill raised  the                                                                   
Governor's  salary, which  would  have effectively  increased                                                                   
the benefit,  however, that section  was dropped.   He added,                                                                   
Section 2  of the  bill guarantees that  there is  no "double                                                                   
dipping".                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Croft inquired  the situation of the other 25-                                                                   
30 people  that are  on a  similar track.   Mr. Bell  replied                                                                   
that the  general theory behind  EPORS was that  overtime and                                                                   
salaries would increase.   He noted that system  was based on                                                                   
the  judicial retirement  system,  which  is effectively  the                                                                   
same.  The  way that it  works is that a  person's retirement                                                                   
benefit is based on current salary  of the position that they                                                                   
vacated.   For the EPORS members  that has been  more erratic                                                                   
and  for  some,  non-existent.   He  added  that  legislative                                                                   
salaries have increased.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bell  explained  that  there   was  a  challenge  ballot                                                                   
measure, which was disapproved.   There was an option to stay                                                                   
in.    Some  of those  people have  not yet  retired and  the                                                                   
remainder   are   drawing  benefits   for   public   service.                                                                   
Discussion  followed  between  Representative Croft  and  Mr.                                                                   
Bell  regarding  the  history   of  the  Judicial  Retirement                                                                   
statute.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Bunde clarified  that  the amendment  would  only                                                                   
effect  retired persons  under the  EPORS system.   Mr.  Bell                                                                   
interjected that  the person would  have had to  been retired                                                                   
for  at least  15 years.   Representative  Hudson  emphasized                                                                   
that the bill  would provide equal treatment  for the retiree                                                                   
and would bring those few people up to "speed".                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Davies  asked   if  the  amendment  would  be                                                                   
excluding anyone.   Mr. Bell  stated that the  Department was                                                                   
comfortable  with  the  amendment  because  excluded  persons                                                                   
would be eligible  for an increased amount at  a future date.                                                                   
He reiterated that  there would a benefit at  sometime in the                                                                   
future.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, Amendment #1 was adopted.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Croft  MOVED a  conceptual  amendment to  the                                                                   
bill.  He  stated that the root  of the problem was  that the                                                                   
Governor's  salary had  not been increased  in twenty  years.                                                                   
He suggested that  the language indicate that  the Governor's                                                                   
salary be  $100,000 dollars, effective  with the  swearing in                                                                   
of the next Governor.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hudson  OBJECTED.  He commented  that the bill                                                                   
simply was trying  to make parity and pointed  out that there                                                                   
is a salary bill to address other concerns.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:      Croft, Davies, Moses                                                                                             
OPPOSED:       Foster, Harris, Hudson, Lancaster, Whitaker,                                                                     
               Bunde, Mulder, Williams                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (3-8).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hudson MOVED to  report CS HB 198 (FIN) out of                                                                   
Committee  with  individual  recommendations   and  with  the                                                                   
accompanying fiscal notes.  Representative  Whitaker OBJECTED                                                                   
for further discussion.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Whitaker voiced  concern if equality was being                                                                   
created with passage of the legislation.   Mr. Bell responded                                                                   
that   the    system   had   been   classified    as   EPORS.                                                                   
Representative Whitaker  asked if the three  persons who made                                                                   
the  decision to  stay, had  been placed  into that  category                                                                   
with the  option to  "opt out".   Mr. Bell acknowledged  that                                                                   
was  correct.   Representative  Whitaker  indicated  that  he                                                                   
maintained his objection.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:      Davies, Foster, Harris, Hudson, Lancaster,                                                                       
               Moses, Bunde, Williams, Mulder                                                                                   
OPPOSED:       Whitaker, Croft                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION PASSED (9-2).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CS  HB  198   (FIN)  was  reported  out  of   Committee  with                                                                   
"individual"  recommendations  and  with  a  fiscal  note  by                                                                   
Department  of Administration  #1  dated 4/16/01  and a  zero                                                                   
fiscal note #2 by the Office of the Governor dated 4/16/01.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
#HB53                                                                                                                         
HOUSE BILL NO. 53                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     An Act establishing the Alaska Seismic Hazards Safety                                                                      
     Commission.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHN DAVIES explained  that HB 53 would create                                                                   
a Seismic  Hazards Safety commission.   The Commission  would                                                                   
be  situated in  the  Governor's  office.   The  Commissioner                                                                   
would be established  to address pressing needs  in providing                                                                   
a  consistent  policy  framework  and  a  means  for  ongoing                                                                   
coordination of programs and public  safety practices related                                                                   
to seismic  hazards.  Current  needs are not  being addressed                                                                   
by any  state government  organization.   The seismic  Hazard                                                                   
Safety Commission  would encourage long-term  progress toward                                                                   
mitigating the effects of earthquakes.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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Representative  J. Davies  emphasized  that  there should  be                                                                   
people  within the  State focusing  on  building code  needs,                                                                   
which are cost effective.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Members of the commission would  be appointed by the Governor                                                                   
to represent  the University, various governmental  agencies,                                                                   
as well  as members  of the public  who are knowledgeable  in                                                                   
earthquake   hazard  mitigation.      The  Commission   would                                                                   
recommend  to the public  and governmental  sector goals  and                                                                   
priorities for  reducing earthquake  effects.  The  authority                                                                   
and responsibility  of other various state  agencies, boards,                                                                   
councils, commissions  and/or local governments  would not be                                                                   
intended  to be  transferred to  the  Alaska Seismic  Hazards                                                                   
Safety Commission.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Williams  pointed out that  last year, the  bill had                                                                   
passed  through  the  House  and  made  it  to  Senate  Rules                                                                   
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Davies MOVED to  report HB 53 out of Committee                                                                   
with  individual recommendations  and  with the  accompanying                                                                   
fiscal note.  There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
HB  53  was  reported  out of  Committee  with  a  "do  pass"                                                                   
recommendation  and with a  fiscal note  #1 by Department  of                                                                   
Natural Resources dated 3/30/01.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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